15 years old, with little education, no job and producing children they can't feed unless they violate another country's immigration laws? Pathetic!

Typical. The Invader leeches of the American taxpayer and lives on welfare thanks to their anchor child. No wonder California is going down the drain.

Typical. The Invader leeches of the American taxpayer and lives on welfare thanks to their anchor child. No wonder California is going down the drain.

Another racist rant from another KKKer. Yawn.

The invader leeches were your ancestors Thomas, and you are the anchor baby!

This cultural flaw is one of the reasons we don't need Mexican illegal aliens in this country. Who would really believe such people wouldn't turn to our public welfare system after reaching the end of their "path to citizenship". Don't forget this all you intellectual Hispanics who can't wait for amnesty, you'll be paying your share of the taxes to support these irresponsible people. Actually it will occur sooner, as they'll be claiming welfare on behalf of their already citizen children. I can't wait to hear you wail when this happens. You'll probably also wonder why these parents can't send their kids to college and become the leaders of tomorrow. Such actions on your part will assure that Latino children who have children will remain the servant class for decades to come.

Just this week in a small community south of my city, a 15 year old illegal gang banger, whose 15 year old girlfriend had just been released from the hospital with their new baby, was proudly showing his friends his gun when he accidently shot himself in the head and died. What a role model for children.

45 year olds, with little education, no job and blaming society and every non-white in the USA for their own problems and refuse to get off their butt to work and thinks everything should be handed to them? Pathetic!

Typical. The Racist bloodsuckers of the American dream who dreams of living in a all-white world with the non-white living at their feet. No wonder nobody wants to visit the South

Wow now I see everything. I post a comment and they assume I'm white. Whose the real racist? You got a thing against white people thats your deal but I'm a half breed, Half white and half latino. We didn't sneak across the border like common criminals. What gets me we have our people to take care of and corrupt countries around the world are dumping their unwanteds on this country. Doesn't it upset you that mexico or whatever doesn't wan't you back. Doesn't that make you feel like dirt. Like a plague. Send you off to the desert. If you die great if you make make sure you dend the dollars home as your loyalty is to the old country. Your no American your a taker. We don't need takers. We have enough of them in Washington.

I don't know of many 45 year old citizens that fit your scenario, anonymous. You are grasping at straws here. But for those that do, they are also pathetic.

I don't know of many Americans who dream of living in an all white world either. Only the KKK types. The majority of whites and other citizens who oppose illegal immigration are not KKKers contrary to the lies spread in here.

Grandma I see your point here is another one

Cops Witness Beating of an Elderly Homeless Man

May 18: Several police officers dressed in plainclothes were patrolling Memorial Boulevard when they witnessed four teenage boys with shaved heads attack a black man, Cutis Johnson, 63. It was 12:30 am when the boys approached Johnson, who was sleeping behind a Rent-A-Wheel auto shop. They started punching, shouting racial slurs and cursing at him to get up. Johnson rose to his feet and ran from the teens. The boys chased after him throwing rocks and beer bottles. One bottle hit Johnson in the right elbow resulting in dislocation and a deep gash. While three boys harassed Johnson, one boy searched through Johnson’s possessions. The police halted the attack and arrested the young teens, Dexter Davis, 15, David Truedell, 13, Etoy Love, 14, and Wesley Delancy, 15. They are charged with strong-arm robbery and aggravated battery. Truedell faces additional charges for resisting arrest. Johnson was taken to Lakeland Regional Medical Center for care. Local police, advocates, and homeless people in the area agree that attacks on the homeless, especially by groups of teens, are far too common.

Tampa, Florida

This was a hate crime. Are the parents of these boys teaching them to hate other people because of the color of their skin?

The work ethic of these Young Fathers is enviable.

Of the 18.9 million who work, 656,000 don't receive a salary, 10.8 million work two jobs earning minimum wage, 5.3 million work more than 2 up to 5 jobs and 2.1 million work more than 5 jobs.

They could show a thing or two to all the men who spend the entire day and night in these forums.

15 years old, with little education, no job and producing children they can't feed unless they violate another country's immigration laws? Pathetic!

These fathers are from Mexico. What immigration laws are they violating.

In fact maybe we should invite them here and throw out some of the dead beat dads that dont want to support their children! At least these fathers do support their children.

Wow, what an assumption! For one thing I don't spend ALL day in here. For another I am retired. Any more questions?

Someone needs to re-read the article. It was stated that many of these Mexican father's do cross our borders illegally to feed these kids that they fathered at 15 years old. Why have kids at 15 or any other age that you can't feed unless you violate U.S. immigration law?

Why is it so alarming that 5% of Mexican fathers are under 24. 95% are over 24.

Here is good news coming out of Mexico.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-mexgdp23-2008may23,0,6944412.story

I'm kind of saddened that so many Mexican men enter fatherhood so quickly. It kind of points to the priorities in the culture. Mexico has so many natural resources that it could improve its educational system dramatically if it could sell the resources successfully. If only more of these men had access to education and were raised to think and dream beyond having to cross the border to make a living...

"Wow now I see everything. I post a comment and they assume I'm white. Whose the real racist?"
~~~
You are the racist, as your comment was a racist comment using the pejorative 'anchor baby', and 'leeches' in reference to hispanics. I didnt assume anything. I merely turned your racist comment to refer to you. Racists come in all colors. It is their speech that gives them away.
~~~

"You got a thing against white people thats your deal but I'm a half breed, Half white and half latino. We didn't sneak across the border like common criminals."

Migrating is not a crime in America it is an Administrative Issue. Therefore Immigrants are not criminals.
~~~

"What gets me we have our people to take care of and corrupt countries around the world are dumping their unwanteds on this country."

Every time you buy products or use services provided by unauthorized immigrants you are recruiting them just like the lady in the article below. Just a few years ago these websites were readily recruiting immigrants from Mexico.

When she could not find enough workers for the construction firm owned by her son Thomas, Ann Carroll decided to go online. After typing in such search terms as "construction laborer" and "Mexican workers," she landed on the Web site for Foreign Labor Solutions. Within days she had a quote: $100 each for 11 Mexican workers." In October, Carrol's
Construction Co. recruits began laying sewer pipes in Ocean Springs, where the company is located. "I don't know what we would've done if we didn't go this route," says Carroll. "We're very happy with the workers."

With no visas available, labor shortages, and on the verge of loosing their business Carroll feels she did the right thing.

But as Carroll's experience shows, using an online middleman can be efficient and cost-effective. The recruitment company was founded in 2002 by Taylor, an entrepreneur descended from a family of American settlers in Mexico. Business took off when he set up a Web site about a year ago and began advertising on Yahoo (YHOO ) and Google (GOOG ). The site boasts of "hardworking people acclimated to tough physical labor and who have worked under severe warm-weather conditions"--guys like Andreas Alcala Martinez, 29, who works for Carroll Construction. "Little money, but not hard work," says Martinez. He makes $12 an hour and he has worked for Carroll for 10 months.
~~~

Doesn't it upset you that mexico or whatever doesn't wan't you back. Doesn't that make you feel like dirt. Like a plague. Send you off to the desert. If you die great if you make make sure you dend the dollars home as your loyalty is to the old country."
~~~
I am well liked in Mexico. In fact I have a wonderful summer home in Mexico where I go to be pampered, even though I am not Mexican.
~~~

Your no American your a taker. We don't need takers. We have enough of them in Washington

I am not only a true Indigenous American and Irish American I am an American who is proud of my country and will uphold the constution even if it means giving my life.

I am however very embarrised by all the racism against people of color. I do not like racism and I pity racists. I will also do everything in my power to fight against it as our constution calls.

OK lets read it!

The country's National Population Council or Conapo "IS A MEXICAN GOV AGENCY" released some interesting facts ABOUT THEIR COUNTRY'S FATHERS which was reported in the Mexico City daily El Universal IS A MEXICAN NEWSPAPER

The most striking element is that there are 1.3 million Mexican fathers who are between the ages of 15 and 24. They are part of the larger number of 20.8 million who live with their children.

Of the 18.9 million who work, 656,000 don't receive a salary, 10.8 million work two jobs earning minimum wage, 5.3 million work more than 2 up to 5 jobs and 2.1 million work more than

This article shows I am basing the fact that the Fathers are living in Mexico because that is what the article states.

The statics are from a Mexican Gov Agency and published by a well known Mexican Newspaper.

"Every time you buy products or use services provided by unauthorized immigrants you are recruiting them just like the lady in the article below. Just a few years ago these websites were readily recruiting immigrants from Mexico."

You are under the impression that Ann Carrol hired "Illegal Immigrants".

Do your research on the "recruiters", as the people they promise to send are, according to their own web sites, visa holders.

The USA based client requests Latinworkers.com locates, interviews, vets and approves a worker(s) from within our geographic area. Latinworkers.com will be responsible for the solicitation and emission of a work visa. Latinworkers.com guarantees that an applicant will be successful procuring a work visa.

http://latinworkers.com/service2.html

From Labormex, which Mrs. Carrol used.

http://hospitality.labormex.com/hospitalityFLS.htm

Foreign Labor Solutions

The H2 nonimmigrant program permits employers to hire foreign workers to come to the U.S. and perform temporary work.

1. The job must be one time, seasonal, peak load or intermittent.

2. The job must be for lees than one year, but can be recurrent annually.

3. There must be no Americans willing or able to work for you.

There is a 66,000 per year limit on the number of foreign workers who may receive H-2B (non-agriculture) status during each USCIS fiscal year (October through September).

We make this tedious process simple by dealing directly with government agencies to ensure that you get certified to hire H2 workers.

1. Your application is sent to your local Department of Labor along with proof of temporary need.
2. We run an ad in a local paper to make sure that no Americans in your area are able or willing to work for you. - 30 days to complete this process
3. All documents are forwarded to the DOL Regional offices for certification.
4. After we receive the original Certificate, we forward it along with other applications to Immigration
5. Homeland Security or USCIS approves case.

Transportation: We will make sure that the workers arrive at your doorstep. Transportation to and from work must not be paid by the company, but must be made available.

Housing: Housing does not have to be paid by the employer, but it must be made available as well, meaning that a reasonable rent or fee can be charged.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/07_03/b4017085.htm

Your business week article doesn't mention this line that you have inserted:
"With no visas available, labor shortages, and on the verge of loosing their business Carroll feels she did the right thing."

So why the lying on your part. Did you not comprehend the article or is this some more of your opinionated facts?

Frank, Thomas, Horace, Grandma,

Why are you so quick with negativity over such a small percentage of Mexican fathers being 24 and under? That's only 5%, in a 10 year range, 15-24. Probably most of those are closer to 24, with very few being just 15. Yet, you grab on to the number 15 to prove cultural deficiencies on a whole population. What's going on in your heads?

Evelyn :
"Migrating is not a crime in America it is an Administrative Issue. Therefore Immigrants are not criminals."

Really? Tell that to my office. We prosecute illegals all day long and alot of them are arrested for EWIs (entry without inspection). They're arrested, finger printed, booked, put in jail and get their day in court with an interpreter (all at the expense of the American taxpayer). And guess what, they get convicted of a CRIME. So when they come back like they all do, they then get charged with a felony.

Grandma
I will leave it up to you to correctly inform your office. This is something that many Americans are not aware of, but it is fact.

November 30, 2007
Illegal Immigration is Not a Criminal Offense
Posted by KUT under Civil Liberties, Civil Rights, Election 08, immigration

At the Republican Presidential CNN/YouTube debate on Wednesday night, Mike Huckabee tried to explain a plan he introduced as governor of Arkansas to provide the children of undocumented immigrants a college education. He said:

Huckabee: I supported the bill that would’ve allowed those children who had been in our schools their entire school life the opportunity to have the same scholarship that their peers had, who had also gone to high school with them and sat in the same classrooms.

They couldn’t just move in in their senior year and go to college. It wasn’t about out of state tuition. It was an academic, meritorious scholarship called the Academic Challenge Scholarship.

Now, let me tell you a couple of provisions of it. And, by the way, it didn’t pass. It passed the House but got in the Senate and got caught up in the same kind of controversy that this country is caught up in.

And here’s what happened. This bill would’ve said that if you came here, not because you made the choice but because your parents did, that we’re not going to punish a child because the parent committed a crime.

That’s not what we typically do in this country.

I thought this was an interesting response because while Huckabee is trying to appeal to the better angels of our nature here, he is still getting some wrong. And probably deliberately, which is undocumented immigration is not a crime, its a civil violation. That is to say, unauthorized immigration to the United States, is not punishable through the U.S. criminal code.

In fact, deportation or removal proceedings are actually conducted in civil court, not criminal court.

But so many of us have had it beat into our heads that undocumented immigrants carry this aura of inherent criminality around them because all we here is illegal immigration, illegal immigration, illegal immigration, illegal immigration.

Even Republican front runner Rudy Guiliani got slaughtered by his base when he tried to inform people about this distinction.

And assuming that we could charged all immigrants without papers or who are unauthorized with criminal charges, that would lead to a administrative nightmare that would do more harm than good. Our courts could not handle those cases and there is no where near the manpower to conduct mass deportation. Not to mention families would be broken apart and many of those charged would be detained almost indefinitely while the government figures out what to do with them.

Some of this is obviously already happening.

Of course, some people may think this is a mere semantic distinction, but its not. Its about trying to think straight about a problem before it gets worse

Let's face it arturo, both Latino men and women start producing children at a very young age instead of continuing their educations and putting it off until they can afford to feed a family. It is just a fact!

It is not a fact. It's the past, like the US had that in its past. You face it: your opinions aren't based on fact.

In the 1970s, the average woman in Mexico had six children. Today, it's two.

"Grandma

I will leave it up to you to correctly inform your office. This is something that many Americans are not aware of, but it is fact."

You're an ass, Evelyn. Illegal immigration is punishable as a crime, especially when it is a repeat office, which may be what Grandma is referring to. Even one time illegal entries are punishable by jail time.

This is an extract form the Code of Federal Regulations. I've given you more than you need to judge for yourself. You should familiarize yourself with these laws, as you may need to defend your friends facing deportation:

United States Code
TITLE 8 - ALIENS AND NATIONALITY
CHAPTER 12 - IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY
SUBCHAPTER II - IMMIGRATION
PART VIII - GENERAL PENALTY PROVISIONS

U.S. Code as of: 01/03/05
Section 1325. Improper entry by alien

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection;
misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States
at any time or place other than as designated by immigration
officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration
officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United
States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the
willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first
commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or
imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent
commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or
imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties
Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to
enter) the United States at a time or place other than as
designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil
penalty of -
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or
attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of
an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under
this subsection.

Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not
in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be
imposed.
(c) Marriage fraud
Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the
purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be
imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than
$250,000, or both.
(d) Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud
Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise
for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws
shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance
with title 18, or both.

Section 1326. Reentry of removed aliens

(a) In general
Subject to subsection (b) of this section, any alien who -
(1) has been denied admission, excluded, deported, or removed
or has departed the United States while an order of exclusion,
deportation, or removal is outstanding, and thereafter
(2) enters, attempts to enter, or is at any time found in, the
United States, unless (A) prior to his reembarkation at a place
outside the United States or his application for admission from
foreign contiguous territory, the Attorney General has expressly
consented to such alien's reapplying for admission; or (B) with
respect to an alien previously denied admission and removed,
unless such alien shall establish that he was not required to
obtain such advance consent under this chapter or any prior Act,

shall be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years,
or both.
(b) Criminal penalties for reentry of certain removed aliens
Notwithstanding subsection (a) of this section, in the case of
any alien described in such subsection -
(1) whose removal was subsequent to a conviction for commission
of three or more misdemeanors involving drugs, crimes against the
person, or both, or a felony (other than an aggravated felony),
such alien shall be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more
than 10 years, or both;
(2) whose removal was subsequent to a conviction for commission
of an aggravated felony, such alien shall be fined under such
title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both;
(3) who has been excluded from the United States pursuant to
section 1225(c) of this title because the alien was excludable
under section 1182(a)(3)(B) of this title or who has been removed
from the United States pursuant to the provisions of subchapter V
of this chapter, and who thereafter, without the permission of
the Attorney General, enters the United States, or attempts to do
so, shall be fined under title 18 and imprisoned for a period of
10 years, which sentence shall not run concurrently with any
other sentence.(!1) or

(4) who was removed from the United States pursuant to section
1231(a)(4)(B) of this title who thereafter, without the
permission of the Attorney General, enters, attempts to enter, or
is at any time found in, the United States (unless the Attorney
General has expressly consented to such alien's reentry) shall be
fined under title 18, imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or
both.

For the purposes of this subsection, the term "removal" includes
any agreement in which an alien stipulates to removal during (or
not during) a criminal trial under either Federal or State law.
(c) Reentry of alien deported prior to completion of term of
imprisonment
Any alien deported pursuant to section 1252(h)(2) (!2) of this
title who enters, attempts to enter, or is at any time found in,
the United States (unless the Attorney General has expressly
consented to such alien's reentry) shall be incarcerated for the
remainder of the sentence of imprisonment which was pending at the
time of deportation without any reduction for parole or supervised
release. Such alien shall be subject to such other penalties
relating to the reentry of deported aliens as may be available
under this section or any other provision of law.

(d) Limitation on collateral attack on underlying deportation order
In a criminal proceeding under this section, an alien may not
challenge the validity of the deportation order described in
subsection (a)(1) of this section or subsection (b) of this section
unless the alien demonstrates that -
(1) the alien exhausted any administrative remedies that may
have been available to seek relief against the order;
(2) the deportation proceedings at which the order was issued
improperly deprived the alien of the opportunity for judicial
review; and
(3) the entry of the order was fundamentally unfair.
----------------------------
Misdemeanor defined

MISDEMEANOR - A minor crime (as opposed to a felony). A crime - less serious than a felony - which is punishable by fine or imprisonment in a city or county jail rather than in a penitentiary.

This term is used to express every offence inferior to felony, punishable by indictment, or by particular prescribed proceedings; in its usual acceptation, it is applied to all those crimes and offences for which the law has not provided a particular name; this word is generally used in contradistinction to felony; misdemeanors comprehending all indictable offences, which do not amount to felony, as perjury, battery, libels, conspiracies and public nuisances

Well Evelyn, every person, be he citizen or illegl alien who obtains work has to fill out an Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification form swearing that he is eligible to work, and has to present a Social Security card. See http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-9.pdf Illegal aliens are committing fraud punishable by fines and/or imprisonment if they sign such a form. Millions of illegal aliens have done so, and subject to arrest. Millions of illegal aliens have knowingly submitted forged Social Security cards to their employers and are thus guilty of fraud. If the government chose to do so, every illegal alien who signs an I-9 could wind up in a federal prison for several years. If the laws were enforced, the federal prisons would be filled with your friends.

From everything I have read, this might have more to do with educational and income level than Mexican culture.

Middle and upper income Mexicans do not have more children than the average middle and upper income Americans. However, the lower educated and more rural people tend to have larger families. It is mostly the lower educated and lower income Latinos who are migrating into the U.S.

One must look at the society as a whole and not just one segment of it.

Would be like looking at white, uneducated trailer park dwellers and saying that is representative of white Americans. (not trying to offend any white trailer park residents as there are many good, decent, and hardworking people who live in trailers; just trying to make a point).

In school we were educated that putting off childbearing until we completed our educations and got married was optimal. We were taught it was the best way to insure a prosperous future and that having children too early could often lead to a cycle of poverty. Maybe Mexico needs this type of education in their schools? Of course, it doesn't always work, but it doesn't hurt either.

Sad ,but true. Their machismo
prevents them from using contraception. No wonder,
so few of us struggle all our lives
just to keep a roof over us.
Who can be a doctor, lawyer or president of the United States when you have a baby to raise and you
are a 15 year old parent?
Somebody needs to wake up.

"Evelyn: I will leave it up to you to correctly inform your office. This is something that many Americans are not aware of, but it is fact."

I'm sure my office would balk at your post since we take our orders from DC, not you. Maybe you should pose that question to the AG of the US. I'm sure he would disagree with you since my office follows immigration law. Not the ACLU.

Are these the wonderful fathers you speak of?
Mexican Invaders Have Declared Open-Season On American Children
By Dave Gibson (06/17/08)

Contrary to what President Bush claims, family values do stop at the Rio Grande for many illegal aliens. In addition to suppressing wages, driving drunk, bankrupting our hospitals, and over-crowding our jails and public schools, illegal aliens are preying upon our children.

In Operation Predator sweeps across the country conducted between 2003-2007, Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents nabbed over 10,700 foreign national child molesters. Many of these predators had been previously convicted of other crimes, and many had already been deported once. The number predators apprehended in the sweeps actually only represent the tip of the iceberg.

In fact, a study conducted by the Violent Crimes Institute reports that between 1999 and 2006, there were nearly 1,000,000 sex crimes committed in the United States by illegal aliens.

Using U.S. Department of Justice, Immigration, as well as state and local law enforcement data, Deborah Schurman-Kauflin of the Violent Crimes Institute determined that there are no less than 240,000 illegal alien sex offenders currently inside the U.S.

A very cursory search on the subject of illegal aliens committing acts of child molestation turned up countless examples of the growing problem. The following are two recent ones:

-The suspect in the recent rape of a 13 year old Alabama girl is believed to be an illegal alien. Mobile County Sheriff's detectives are looking for a man named Domingo Lorenzo for the rape which was reported on June 4.

Sheriff’s department spokesman Sgt. Jerry Taylor said: "The first thing they're trying to do is verify his true identity. Once that's done they'll be able to check with immigration officials to see if he did have the proper credentials to enter the country.”

Lorenzo is known to neighbors of a West Mobile trailer park, though the owner of Ridgewood Acres claims that he has no record of Lorenzo paying rent. Many residents told reporters he is frequently on the premises.

Warren McLamore, the victim‘s father told a WKRG reporter: "My daughter doesn't even go outside now. If she does, I just put her in the car, lock the doors, get in and get out of here."

-On May 28, a 25 year old Mexican national named Israel Lugo Rios was arrested and charged with molesting a 3 year old Bradenton, FL girl. The little girls was taken to Manatee Memorial Hospital after complaining of pain. Upon medical examination, it was discovered that the girl had been sexually violated.

The sheriff’s department has determined that Rios is in the country illegally.

In 2007, Americans For Legal Immigration Political Action Committee (ALIPAC) tracked child sexual assaults committed by illegal aliens. In a 30 day period, they recorded 27 assaults by foreign nationals illegally inside the United States. The results are as follows:

July 28, 2007
Milwaukee, Oregon
Charged: Alejandro Emetrio "Alex" Rivera Gamboa, 24, and Gilberto Javier Arellano-Gamboa, 23
Charges: rape and murder
Victim: Dani Countryman of Texas (15 years old)

August 6, 2007
Trenton, N.J.
Charged: Jose Carranza, 28
Charges: child rape (later charged with murder of Newark teenagers as well)
Victim: child's name withheld

August 16, 2007
Huron, Ohio
Charged: Lucio Sanchez-Martinez
Charge: gross sexual imposition of a minor
Victim: 8 year old girl

August 20, 2007
Oregon City, Oregon
Charged: Alejandro Hernandez-Flores, 19 and Mario Alberto Flores-Estrada, 20
Charges: rape, sodomy, and sexual abuse
Victims: two girls ages 14 and 15

August 21, 2007
Franklin County, Alabama
Charged: Alvaro Vargas, 38
Charge: rape, sexual abuse
Victim: 11 year old girl

August 23, 2007
Bryan County, Oklahoma
Sought/Charged: Jose Retana
Charge: rape by instrumentation
Victim: 4 year old girl

August 24, 2007
Indianapolis, Indiana
Charged: Jesus Valenzuela, 19
Charges: child molestation and burglary
Victim: 5 year old girl

August 27, 2007
McAllen, Texas
Charged: Jorge Alberto Escobar
Charge: aggravated kidnapping
Victim: 5 year old girl

August 27, 2007
Rockville, Maryland
Sought/Charged: Mahumbo Kanneh, 23
Charges: rape, sexual assault, and molestation (Dismissed due to lack of interpreter!)
Victims: 18 month and 7 year old girls

August 15, 2007
Indiantown, Florida
Charged: Ruben Hernandez-Juarez, 52
Charge: battery on a child for molesting
Victim: 6 year old boy

August 8, 2007
North Hollywood, California
Charged: Chalearmchai Nopthaisong, 41
Charges: kidnapping and lewd acts on a child
Victims: seven children (Police have since discovered six more victims ranging from age 4 to 8 years old.)

July 20, 2007
Tulsa, Oklahoma
Charged: Daniel P. Ramirez, 39
Charges: sexual battery
Victim: 16 year old boy

August 14, 2007
Portsmouth, Massachusetts
Charged: Marvin Hernandez, 27
Charges: sexual assault
Victim: 14 year old girl

August 20, 2007
Gaston County, North Carolina
Charged: Ramon Zamora-Solano, 41
Charges: kidnapping and sexual assault
Victims: 5 and 6 year old girls

August 9, 2007
Poway, California
Charged: Jesus Mora Nava, 30
Charges: sexual assault
Victim: 13 year old boy

August 22, 2007
Palm Bay, Florida
Charged: Dwayne Modeste, 19
Charges: rape (armed with a machete)
Victims: 13 year old girl and 20 year old woman

August 20, 2007
Manchester, New Hampshire
Charged: Alan Hernandez, 18
Charges: sexual assault and criminal threatening
Victim: 14 year old girl

August 18, 2007
Brewster, New York
Charged: Sergio Antonio Martinez-Garza, 32
Charges: two felony counts of sexual conduct against a child
Victims: two girls ages 10 and 11

August 18, 2007
Brewster, New York
Charged: Pedro Sagastume, 21
Charges: rape
Victim: 13 year old girl

August 18, 2007
Brewster, New York
Charged: Jeremias Perez, 22
Charges: rape
Victim 15 year old girl

July 28, 2007
Tacoma, Washington
Charged: Terapon Adhahn, 42
Charges: rape, kidnapping, and murder
Victim: Zina Linnik, 12

July 30, 2007
Murfreesboro, Tennessee
Charged: Jesus G. "Egg" Garay-Barrientos, 18
Charges: aggravated sexual battery and rape
Victim: 6 year old girl

July 27, 2007
Alto, Texas
Charged: Eleazar Posadas, 49
Charges: indecent contact with a child
Victim: 7 year old girl

July 21, 2007
Village of Monroe, New York
Charged: Armando Sierra, 22
Charges: statutory rape
Victim: 14 year old girl

August 16, 2007
Bentonville, Arkansas
Charged: Daniel Lopez Bibiano, 34
Charges: attempted rape, sexual assault, and rape
Victims: 5, 10, 12, 13, and 15 year old girls

August 18, 2007
Indianapolis, Indiana
Charged: Israel Baez
Charges: In custody on other charges. Approached a group of children and arrested with a 'rape kit' in his van.
Witnesses: 5 children

So why does the crime of child molestation seem to be so prevalent among illegal aliens from Mexico?…The answer may lie within the age-old Mexican culture of “machismo,” as well as within the actual laws of that country.

The crime of rape or child molestation is incredibly under-reported in Mexico, because there is so much shame placed upon the victim as well as the difficulty in proving the case. A 2002 Pulitzer Prize winning Washington Post article, reporter Mary Jordan detailed the case of a 16 year old Mexican girl who had reported being raped by three policemen in 1997. When Yessica Yadira Diaz Cazares and her mother went to the police station to report the rape, she was laughed at by the officers and actually jailed overnight.

Diaz was forced by police to undergo a medical exam as well as a total of eight blood tests. She was told that the blood tests would determine whether or not she had actually been raped. Prosecutors told the girl that she must physically put her hand on the men who raped her, courageously she proceeded even as the family received death threats.

The accused officer laughed at her and verbally abused the girl as she identified him as an attacker. Eventually, Yessica realized that justice would never be served and simply gave up. Sadly, she not only gave up her search for justice but her life as well. Despondent, she committed suicide by taking an overdose of prescription pills.

After Yessica’s death, the national human rights commission pursued the case, resulting in the conviction of two of the accused officers.

The crime of kidnapping a woman for the purpose of rape and marriage against their will, or “rapto” as it is known in Mexico is actually a minor crime and rarely ever prosecuted. A Mexican legislator actually called the practice “romantic.” Of course, this crime if committed in the United States would elicit felony charges and a penalty of 20 years to life in prison.

While rape is a serious crime in the United States, many Mexican nationals cannot understand why they are prosecuted on this side of the border. Often, a small payment of $10 to $20 to the victim’s family will settle the matter back in Mexico.

The most troubling and telling reason behind the growing epidemic of child molestation at the hands of Mexican illegal aliens, is the fact the age of sexual consent throughout the majority of Mexico is 12 years of age!

The only other nation in the world which boasts such a disregard for childhood innocence is Zimbabwe, where the age of consent is also 12.

Article 177 of the Mexican Federal District Penal Code discusses “sexual abuse“ and punishment of other acts referred to as “unintentional” acts –“who without purpose of reaching copulation, performs a sexual act with a person under 12 or a person that has no capacity of understanding the meaning of the act or that for any reason cannot resist it, or that demands that such act is observed or performed, will be punished with 2 to 7 years in prison”.

In addition to Mexico City, the age of consent is 12 years old in the following Mexican states:

-Aquascalientes

-Baja California Sur

-Campeche

-Coahuila

-Guanajuato

-Guerrero

-Hidalgo

-Jalisco

-Michoacan

-Morelos

-Nayarit

-Oaxaca

-Puebla

-San Louis Potosi

-Sonora

-Tabasco

-Tamaulipas

-Yucatan

-Zacatecas

The age of consent is 13 years old in Nuevo Leon and 14 years old in the seven remaining Mexican states.

The attitude towards having sex with little girls is carried with many Mexican men as they cross into this country.

An example of this attitude can be found in Mexican national Diego Lopez-Mendez, who pled guilty in 2006 to sexually assaulting a 10 year old West Virginia girl. Through an interpreter, he told the court: “In the pueblo where I grew up girls are usually married by 13 years old….I was unaware of the nature of the offense or that it was a bad crime.”

In order to bring charges of rape in most Mexican states, the law requires that the girl prove that she is a virgin, and that the charge of statutory rape be dropped if the rapist wishes to marry his victim.

Of course, this dirty little secret is never talked about by our politicians, when discussing the issue of illegal immigration nor is the impact that such an attitude could have on this nation by offering amnesty to millions of Mexican nationals.

The next time someone tells you that illegal immigration is a 'victimless crime,' remind them of the children whose lives will never be the same.

Until our politicians gain the courage to actually defend our border…Keep your children close!

Evelyn posted: In fact, deportation or removal proceedings are actually conducted in civil court, not criminal court.

My goodness Evelyn. You seem to think you know more than I do. A legal assistant for the US Attorney's Office in a border state for 10 years, who sees this day in and day out. Deportation and removal proceedings are held in immigration court. Immigration judges decide whether or not a person is to be deported. Someone who has been arrested for an immigration crime whether it be an EWI (Section 8, 1325), a misdemeanor, or a 1326a (a felony) or a 1326b1 or b2, an aggravated felony with more jail time, is arrested, booked, fingerprinted, shackeled, taken to court, and goes through all the criminal proceedings of a criminal. If an illegal is picked up and has no criminal history, there was a time they were sent directly to immigration court (your description of civil court) but that's not the case anymore because most of the border states are prosecuting the EWIs, misdemeanors. Once they get their day in court, and they're sentenced, THEN THEY GO TO AN IMMIGRATION JUDGE IF THEY HAVE NO PRIOR DEPORT ORDER. The immigration judge issues a deportation order and if they come back they are charged with a harsher crime. Please don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about when I deal with this every day.

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'Civil Penalty', is the key word through out the post that you have so graciously provided to shoot down the very lie you are trying to defend.
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The following is the definition of 'Civil Penalty:'

Encyclopedia: Civil penalty

civil penalty or civil fine is a term used to describe when a state entity or a government agency seeks monetary relief against an individual as restitution for wrongdoing by the individual. The wrongdoing is typically defined by a codification of legislation, regulations, and decrees. The civil fine is not considered to be a criminal punishment, because it is primarily sought in order to compensate the state for harm done to it, rather than to punish the wrongful conduct. For example, if a person were to dump toxic waste in a state park, the state would have the same right to seek to recover the cost of cleaning up the mess as would a private landowner, and to bring the complaint to a court of law, if necessary.

Civil penalties occupy a strange place in some legal systems - because they are not criminal penalties, the state need not meet a burden of proof that is "beyond a reasonable doubt"; but because the action is brought by the government, and some civil penalties can run into the millions of dollars, it would be uncomfortable to subject citizens to them by a burden of proof that is merely a "preponderance of the evidence." Therefore, the assessment of most civil penalties requires a finding of "clear and convincing evidence" before a civil defendant will be held liable. A defendant may well raise excuses, justifications, affirmative defenses, and procedural defenses. An administrative law judge or hearing officer may oversee the proceedings and render a judgment.
~~~
Your evidence states the following:

VIII - GENERAL PENALTY PROVISIONS

U.S. Code as of: 01/03/05
Section 1325. Improper entry by alien

(b) Improper time or place; 'CIVIL PENALTY'
Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to
enter) the United States at a time or place other than as
designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a
'CIVIL PENALTY' of -
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or
attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of
an alien who has been previously subject to a 'CIVIL PENALTY' under
this subsection.

'CIVIL PENALTIES' under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.
~~~

The evidence I submitted basically stated the same thing:

"immigration is not a crime, its a civil violation. That is to say, unauthorized immigration to the United States, is not punishable through the U.S. criminal code."
"In fact, deportation or removal proceedings are actually conducted in civil court, not criminal court."
~~~
Now even a child of 8 knows that forged documents, murder, rape, drunk driving, and many other less serious offences are crimes. So before you try to put words in my mouth, I stated:

"Migrating is not a crime in America it is an Administrative Issue. Therefore Immigrants are not criminals."
~~~
By the way, nowhere in your article or mine does it mention the word
"misdemeanor." Your article does mention some crimes that may be considered misdemeanors. However, I only referred to migration by immigrants whose presence in the U.S. is unauthorized. Not other crimes.
~~~
Now that you have made a total fool of yourself let me give you some advice. Before you post evidence make sure you are not blowing a hole in your own Azz. OUCH! LOL!

"Well Evelyn, every person, be he citizen or illegl alien who obtains work has to fill out an Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification form swearing that he is eligible to work, and has to present a Social Security card"

Some do, but most dont. You see Horace there is a little thing given to immigrants who are not authorized to work called the ITIN number. Employers have many ways of getting around filing I-9's calling it contract labor is just one. That is another reason CIR is needed so employers have to pay all workers the same wages.

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IRS gives taxpayer identification numbers (ITIN) to undocumented workers
This from The South Florida Sun Sentinel (Ft Lauderdale), Undocumented workers must report income, by Allan Wernick

The law requires undocumented immigrants to report income to the Internal Revenue Service under the same rules that apply to other earners. If you want to file a tax return but don't have a Social Security number, you can use an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number as a substitute. An ITIN is a nine-digit number used for tax purposes. You get the number by including IRS Form W-7 the first time you file a tax return.

Many undocumented immigrants want an ITIN for banking and other purposes. The IRS now issues ITINs to undocumented immigrants only if they file a tax return. Given this rule, workers who worked 'off the books' and didn't file in the past might want to consider filing this year.

According to the IRS, to get an ITIN you must have a legal obligation to file a return. You have that obligation if you earned $400 or more as an independent contractor. Examples of an independent contractor are day laborers doing yard work for different homeowners each day and part-time housekeepers working, as needed, cleaning apartments.

Regular employees (as opposed to independent contractors) have an obligation to report income if they earned at least $8,200, though the amount might vary depending on age and other factors.

If you earned very little last year, you might be able to report your income without having to pay taxes. You could file a return, get an ITIN and not have to pay a cent to the government.

An ITIN alone does not authorize you to work in the United States. Still, some employers hire undocumented immigrants and report their workers' income using the ITIN.

According to tax expert Eileen Glassman of the Newburgh, N.Y., accounting firm of Goldstein, Karlewicz and Goldstein, LLP, if you or your employer reported income using an ITIN number, then later you get a valid Social Security card, you can ask the U.S. Social Security Administration to reconcile (put together) any retirement accounts that you create.

You are getting a good education on this forum free Horace!!

Evelyn posted: The evidence I submitted basically stated the same thing:

"immigration is not a crime, its a civil violation. That is to say, unauthorized immigration to the United States, is not punishable through the U.S. criminal code."
"In fact, deportation or removal proceedings are actually conducted in civil court, not criminal court."

You can continue to spin this anyway you want. I had to take a file to one of my attorneys at the US courthouse today. I went into the courtroom and there were quite a few illegals standing before the Federal Criminal Judge. All arrested for "immigration" (your word), Illegal Entry (my word). They wore orange jump suits, they were handcuffed and shackeled, they stood before a Federal US Judge. They are charged with a misdemeanor. "unauthorized immigration to the United States, is not punishable through the U.S. criminal code." Sorry, but they were being punished thru the US criminal code for violating the immigration laws and they will be spending another night in jail before they go to an immigration judge (the civil proceeding) and then deported only to come back tomorrow.

Some confuse misdemeanor and felony criminal acts with that of civil and criminal acts. To put it in an even more simplistic context; if I am the one going against you in court, it is civil, if the government is taking you to court, it is criminal.

In civil law, a private party (a corporation or individual person) files the lawsuit and becomes the plaintiff. In criminal law, the litigation is always filed by the government, who is called the prosecution.

Criminal law is much better known to laymen than civil law. They often misapply principles from criminal law to situations in civil (e.g., tort) law, which results in their misunderstanding.

Illegally entering the US is a crime. Unlawful presence is not a federal crime. However, it is a removable offense under the Immigration Act. As illegal immigrants are not citizens of the U.S., they do not have the same rights as a U.S. citizen. Their deportation hearing takes place before an immigration judge. Since the penalty is deportation and/or a fine and/or jail time, many people think of the Immigration Court as a civil court. In fact, the Immigration Court is a criminal court, as it is the government prosecuting the offense.

Under federal law, illegally entering the country is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine and up to six months in prison for a first time. A second offense carries up to two years. If an immigrant has been prosecuted and deported and then sneaks back into the country, he can be charged with a felony punishable by up to two years behind bars. Those with criminal records can get 10 to 20 years.

Many of those who give political shelter to these illegal aliens attempt to claim that many of those Illegal’s are not actually criminals, as they entered the country legally, but failed to leave when required to do so. This is a false claim. Overstay Your Visa and I-94

If you stay in the U.S. longer than your Visa, I-94 and/or grace period (180 days after expiration) allow, you face:

a) Future denial of visas;

b) Bans from re-entry;

c) Detention and deportation as an illegal alien; a now criminal act.

Grandma

This is what I found on Operation Predator.
It is ashame this type of trash exists.

Operation Predator is a comprehensive initiative designed to protect young people from child pornographers, alien smugglers, human traffickers, and other predatory criminals.
You can view the names and stories here.

http://www.ice.gov/pi/predator/newsreleases.htm

06/18/08
Eugene, OR
Oregonian sentenced on federal charges of possessing child pornography

06/18/08
San Diego, CA
Two San-Diego-area men sentenced for possessing child pornography

06/17/08
St Thomas, U.S. Virgin Islands
USVI man pleads guilty to possession of child pornograhy

06/17/08
San Juan, PR
ICE arrests Puerto Rican man for sexually enticing a minor

06/16/08
Miami, FL
Cuba deports ICE ‘Most Wanted’ fugitive sought on sex tourism charges in U.S.
California man due in Miami federal courtroom today

06/06/08
Des Moines, IA
IlIowa man sentenced to 26 years in federal prison for child pornography crimes

06/03/08
Springfield, IL
Illinois man charged with possessing, distributing child pornography

06/03/08
Detroit, MI
Michigan man indicted in videoing of his child exploitation

05/29/08
Los Angeles, CA
Ex-Marine convicted of using drugs and force to have sex with young girls in Cambodia

05/22/08
Baltimore, MD
Columbia man pleads guilty to possession of child pornography

05/20/08
Denver, CO
Colorado man sentenced to 7 years in federal prison for possessing child porn

05/20/08
Midland, TX
ICE special agents arrest college professor on child pornography charges

05/19/08
Urbana, IL
Michigan child sex predator receives 20-year prison sentence

05/16/08
Portland, OR
Former Portland area Boy Scout leader sentenced on sex charges

05/15/08
South Bend, IN
Indiana man indicted in child exploitation, pornography

05/14/08
Boise, ID
Former Idaho high school teacher sentenced on child pornography charges stemming from ICE probe

05/12/08
San Diego, CA
Special education teacher sentenced to 36 months on child pornography charges

05/09/08
Long Island, NY
ICE New York Agents arrest fugitive sexual predator in Long Island

05/08/08
Washington, IN
Indiana man indicted in nationwide investigation of Internet child pornography trade

05/08/08
Lyon, France
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement arrests suspected child abuser focus of INTERPOL global appeal

05/06/08
Las Vegas, NV
Former teacher sentenced to 97 months on child pornography charges

05/06/08
Lyon, France
INTERPOL and ICE seek help identifying international child predator

05/02/08
Dayton, OH
Ohio pediatrician pleads guilty to receiving child pornography

04/25/08
Baltimore, MD
Baltimore man sentenced to 14 years in prison for distributing child pornography on the Internet

04/22/08
Oakland, CA
Accused California sex tourist added to ICE ‘most wanted’ list

04/08/08
San Antonio, TX
San Antonio man sentenced to 8 years for possessing child pornography

04/07/08
San Antonio, TX
San Antonio club bouncer sentenced to 6 years for possessing child porn

04/04/08
Baltimore, MD
ICE passes 100th-arrest milestone in Operation Predator in Maryland

04/03/08
El Paso, TX
Cross-border sex tourist sentenced to 110 months in federal prison

04/02/08
Springfield, IL
Illinois man charged with attempting to entice minor, possessing child pornography

03/27/08
Hartford, CT
Stonington, Conn., man arrested on pornography charges

03/21/08
Minneapolis, MN
More child pornography charges added to Minnesotan's indictment

03/17/08
Spokane, WA
Federal inmate from Spokane sentenced to additional 20 years in prison on child pornography charges

03/17/08
Portland, OR
Washingtonian charged with traveling out-of-state to have sex with children

03/12/08
Washington, DC
New York man sentenced on child pornography and obstruction of justice

03/11/08
Dallas, TX
Federal jury convicts Texas man of possessing, transporting child pornography

03/11/08
Lansing, MI
Lansing man sentenced to 120 years in prison for child pornography crimes

03/10/08
Milwaukee, WI
Wisconsin man gets 10 years in prison for arranging sex with 8-year-old girl

03/07/08
Fargo, ND
Fargo man pleads guilty to possessing child pornography

03/07/08
Pensacola, FL
Pensacola man arrested for enticing a child to engage in sexual activity

03/07/08
Miami, FL
Former CBS technician sentenced to 10 years' imprisonment for enticing a child to engage in sexual activity

02/22/08
St. Croix, VI
U.S. Virgin Islands man sentenced to 11 years for possession of child pornography

02/20/08
Dallas, TX
Dallas man sentenced to 10 years on child pornography conviction

02/20/08
San Juan, PR
ICE arrests man wanted in Florida for possession of child pornography

02/20/08
Richmond, VA
ICE, Virginia Attorney General announce arrests of 171 criminal alien sex offenders in Virginia

02/12/08
Boise, ID
Former Idaho high school teacher and tennis coach pleads guilty to child pornography charges stemming from ICE probe

02/12/08
Wilmington, DE
ICE arrests Air Force Sergeant on child pornography charges

02/08/08
Brownsville, TX
Former fire investigator sentenced to 25 years for producing, possessing child porn in Texas

02/08/08
San Antonio, TX
San Antonio man sentenced to 10 years for possessing child pornography

01/30/08
Orlando, FL
Orlando predator who victimized more than 50 children and recorded sexual acts is sentenced to more than 17 years in prison

01/25/08
Ft. Pierce, FL
Indiantown man sentenced today to 90 months in prison for conspiracy to produce child pornography following an ICE and Martin County Sheriff’s Office investigation

01/24/08
Riverside, CA
Riverside County man sentenced to 20 years for traveling to sexually abuse a 7-year-old boy

01/22/08
New Haven, CT
Storrs man pleads guilty to receipt and distribution of child pornography

01/22/08
Bismarck, ND
North Dakota man indicted for producing, possessing child pornography

01/14/08
San Diego, CA
Special education teacher charged in ICE Internet child pornography probe

01/14/08
Great Falls, MT
Montana resident sentenced to 85 years in prison for making and possessing child pornography

01/11/08
Bismarck, ND
North Dakota man sentenced to more than 21 years for child sexual exploitation

01/10/08
Anchorage, AK
Anchorage man sentenced on federal obscenity charges

01/10/08
Miami, FL
Florida men sentenced for production and receipt of child pornography following ICE and Martin County Sheriff’s Office investigation

01/04/08
Tacoma, WA
Two Washington state men charged in child pornography cases

01/03/08
Portland, OR
Beaverton Boy Scout leader pleads guilty to enticing minor to meet him for sex

01/03/08
Fairfax, VA
ICE D.C. Fugitive Operations Team arrests fugitive sexual predator

It seems Deborah Schurman-Kauflin and her 'Dark Side of Immigration" is another pack of lies.

> 14. ’The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex > > Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ’. > > http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml I’m sorry to see Deborah Schurman-Kauflin (Ph.D. in Interdisciplinary Studies, 1999 from The Union Institute & University’s Ph.D. program for professionals with full-time jobs, http://www.tui.edu/news/network/NETWORK_sum2001.pdf page 35) used as a source. Her methods are wildly extrapolative, she has not done a solid professional job of statistical analysis (not even any discussion of uncertainties). She has a blurb on her site about how she "has been studying serial killers for 20 years," but her photo looks surprisingly young for someone with a PhD working in her field for twenty years. That’s because her description is designed to mislead without actually lying. In fact, she wrote something a little closer to the truth for TUI’s newsletter’ she wrote that she "has been studying serial killers since she was 14 years old. The daughter of a psychologist, Schurman-Kauflin found herself engrossed in her mother’s books and later pursued an undergraduate degree in criminal justice. While working as a homicide investigator, Schurman-Kauflin learned of The Union Institute, designed her program to pursue her interest in serial murder investigation, completed her Ph.D., and currently works as a criminal profiler." This is why it is so difficult to find any credentials for her. This is also very likely why her stats don’t include analysis.

Interestingly, "More than half of the arrests made as part of Operation Predator have been arrests of foreign national sex offenders whose crimes make them removable from the United States. To date, more than 450 of these predators have been deported. Their crimes include a Los Angeles man who repeatedly molested his own daughter and an Austrian-national soccer coach convicted of repeatedly fondling a mentally impaired minor." Most of them were not illegal immigrants from Mexico, and some were not illegal at all, although one can enter the US under false pretenses (not reveal a criminal history, for example), at which time one becomes "illegal." Then there is this page on "illegal immigrant crime" from Colorado Media Matters: http://colorado.mediamatters.org/items/200702160002

The government’s General Accounting Office found that its sample of 55,322 incarcerated illegal aliens had been arrested for (over the years - many had multiple arrests) 700,000 crimes altogether [http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05646r.pdf], of which 12 percent were sex-related (84,000 crimes. That’s not in one year, that’s for all incarcerated illegal aliens GAO could identify as such - so not Nearly One Million Sex Crimes, but 8.4 percent of Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin’s number. Now if we estimate that the average time served is going to be 5 years, it takes 50 years to get to 840,000 at a constant rate - yeah, I know that’s a simplification - there were fewer in the past and there will "probably" be more in the future - so Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin could possibly have gotten that number by extrapolating over all illegal immigrants for the last century... just a thought.)

Here is another de-bunking of the same outlandish claim. This one contains a bit of humor, like Deborah's math problem. LOL!

Dear Mexican,

I've been on sex-offender registry Web sites a couple of times, and it seems there are a lot of names ending with -ez. Is there an elevated rate of sexual deviancy amongst Mexicans? If so, why?

—El Güero Guapísimo

Dear Super-Handsome Light-Skinned Gabacho,

Methinks you doth look for brownies too much. But I don't blame you. Turn on the television and radio, and you're likely to hear anti-immigrant pendejos screech about how Mexicans will rape you while stealing your job and playing banda music really loudly. You'll probably hear them invoke the work of Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin. Her 2006 paper "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly 1 Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants in the United States" came to some startling conclusions, not least of which were that there are 240,000 illegal immigrant sex offenders in this country, and that 93 of these cretins enter this country daily. Know-nothing politicians and even the House Homeland Security Committee's Subcommittee on Investigations have cited Schurman-Kauflin's paper in arguing against amnesty.

Schurman-Kauflin based her findings on a 2005 Government Accountability Office survey that showed 2 percent of illegals in federal, local or state prisons had committed a sex crime. She then applied that percentage to the illegal immigrant population at large. Voila! Instant endemic perversity! This statistical sleight-of-hand, however, withers by employing the very stats she uses. GAO data for 2003 (the most recent year available) showed about 308,000 criminal aliens (legal as well as illegal immigrants) were in American prisons; they constitute about 3 percent of the nation's 12 million illegal immigrants. If only 2 percent of incarcerated illegals committed a sex crime, then it's intellectually misleading to arrive at the 240,000 figure, ¿qué no?

For the Mexican, a more telling number in determining sexual deviancy amongst an ethnic group is the percentage of criminals arrested for such crimes. So, let's go to the scoreboard: In 2003, gabachos incarcerated for sex crimes represented about 18 percent of all gabacho inmates in state prisons; perverted Hispanics, conversely, made up just 11 percent (strangely enough, the U.S. Department of Justice doesn't keep the same statistics for federal prisons). According to this comparison, gabachos are more likely as a group to sexually assault you than Mexicans—but betcha you won't hear Lou Dobbs repeat that factoid ad nauseam.

Grandma

I dont think I know more then you or anyone else, however it does seem I am better informed than you. That is unfortunate because of the position you hold that can affect the lives of many human beings.

Every day we see many articles (like the one that will follow my post) that show the abuses immigrants suffer at the hands of gov. employees. I believe these abuses occur because people who are employed by our tax dollars are misinformed, like you, or bias (anti-immigrant.)

Now that you have had opportunity to view this code firsthand and how it is written with the words 'civil penalty' throughout is not reason to accuse me of trying to 'spin' facts. I did not word this code and I did not write the code.
Code at following site:

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ts_search.pl?title=8&sec=1325

Liquid and Grandma

Illegal Immigrants Have Constitutional Rights
by WM H.
April 12, 2006 07:14 PM EDT (Updated: December 06, 2007 10:58 AM EST)

Do Illegal Immigrants Have Constitutional Rights

I made a comment taking exception to another author's claim that illegal immigrants have no rights. I suggested that it is important to distinguish between constitutional rights and privileges reserved to citizens. The responses to my comment indicate that a great many people do not know what t